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Indian Scout 741 Speed Special

Email Malcolm 'Firedog' Brown   currently located in New Zealand

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This bike was once a totally  complete matching numbers 741. I sold all the bits to builders of stock bikes and created a stroker racer. I had no qualms on doing this as it got the last needed hard to get bits for six other bikes. It also financed my purchase and a large proportion of the development cost. The costs in money were not great as apart from chroming and casting, I do all work myself.   I had new heads cast in a superior alloy as I wanted to change plug angles and run the domed  pistons, a little more than 1/2 into the heads. My heads have an extra horizontal fin if you look close.   I looked at all the available WL series crank assemblies and rods etc. and discarded them as too expensive or just plain worn out. I got given a fairly late model sportster flywheel set and found some iron head sportster 1000 cc rods. I went with the H/D drive side bearing set up as it is very strong. I bored the 741 cylinders to 70 mm and wound up with 735 cc, which is a shade under 45 inches. The bike proved fast and bullet proof in several seasons of classic racing on both short and long circuits. It was originally destined for a trip to Daytona , but in the end we only sent two members as I had to pull out for family reasons. Our boys Paul and Brent, did quite well for themselves, all things considered.   Here in New Zealand the classic scene is very much British based and the club got a bit peed off when these lowly army Indians as they are known here, started nipping at the heels of the Norton Manx's! As a result they started making it difficult in scrutineering and other ways. I went back into racing for fun, not politics, so have converted this bike back to a bobber of sorts. The only detuning I have done is to take out the Shunk cams, so it still is good for around 100 mph and is less of a handful.   The exhaust is one of my sand bent tube varieties and makes less peaky power than the separate tubes we mainly used in racing. It is also slightly quieter, though not something you would go past a trooper at full noise.   Apart from its wheel standing antics for the unwary, it is a good loner bike for visitors until I decide if they should ride my  other Indians. The fenders I used are from the local Japanese bike wrecker so tanks apart, there is not much to wreck. The tail lamp is one I fabricated up from a few scraps of steel from the off cut box. Battery box is one I fashioned up to fill the hole and look right. It holds a good size 12 volt battery and room for a few tools. The pump is a ground down cast iron one, with a welded on flange mount for the magneto.   If you look back through VI files you will see photographs previous evolutions of this bike and perhaps more on the How to do bits under the handle of Firedog. The bike is for sale as I have an original paint 101 to do an internal refurbishment to. I probably have enough bikes already and would sell this one as long as it is hassle free.   I have hosted various VI'ers when they have visited New Zealand and keep contact with them.

The Akront rims, brake mods and various other things keep it light and make it look like it does the business. My riding bud was the professor of industrial design at a Philadelphia university and he rather likes it too. There is no generator, but with a little fiddling I think it could be achieved. I have kept the bulb sizes small and the battery reasonably big. This gave me enough light to get home. Let's face it we mostly do not ride these oldies much at night. I have other bikes with big bright lights if I want to do any serious night riding. There is a bit of trickery inside the case. A very meaty flange and lockring made of 4340 steel to carry the drive side bearing assembly. I left the sleeve a little over length as a safety measure for the cases. This could be trimmed back to reveal the Sportster spline-cut driveside mainshaft . That would be the basis of a drive for an alternator belt/chain, or indeed a small stator.  Dave Blackwell was the first to build a 741 racer. He bored his first cylinders out to 73 mm and is remembered for a spectacular blow up whilst racing. After that we only bored 741 cylinders to 70 mm. Some of us fabricate extra and heavier engine braces which improve chassis dynamics and lessen the possibility of cylinder failure. Sport Scout cylinders are an option for those who have them available. The best breathing cylinders are in fact 841, although these are somewhat harder to obtain. Using WLA or Sportster stroke  with SS or 841 [73mm bore] cylinders puts capacity above 45 inches which is not an option for C class or New Zealand racing.   Graeme Care is a very fine engineer and has spent a lot of time on improving the breed and made patterns and had his own design of cylinders made of superior materials.{ nodular iron] He and I set off down the path of pistons into the cylinder head, but Graeme has other things going on in his life and is not racing at present.


The bottom end of the engine is as built about 3 years ago. Bear in mind the bike has not done a lot of work and the later Sportster bottom end is more than adequate for the job it is doing in this bike.   Cylinders have been off for a  minimal de-glazing hone and new rings before the last race meet. I gave the valves a quick lick then too and fitted valve seals to the inlet valve stems. The inlet valve guides are quite short as they do not pass in to the port area and benefit from using stem seals. The inlet ports are very large and have been partly filled and re-profiled to improve flow. There are no inlet nipples present as a section of thin wall tube has been sweated into the end of the inlet ports. These are of the same size as the custom made manifold, which is almost 1.5 inch internal diameter. The carburetor is an M-88 which has had a total rebuild including all detents, springs, balls and all the normal stuff. I may have had the number drills out to tickle the passages and emulsifier tube. From memory fairly standard though. I do remember doing a lot of fiddling with float height in the early stages.   The pistons I used are GS 850 Suzuki and as such are readily available. I use a much lower specification piston ring set, hence replacing them recently. My thinking on that is I might as well wear out rings than cylinders. I made the valves from suitable Nissan Diesel ones. They are of suitably high specification and experience has shown me they last very well in both valve head and stem areas. Exhaust valves are a few thousandths over stock diameter as there is no benefit to be gained from enlarging. These I made to restore the seats to as high as possible in the cylinders.

Inlet valves are somewhat larger than stock. I do not recall exactly where I ended up on these, but 1 5/16 inch seems to stick in my mind. Safe to say I went as big as I could get in there and still leave some material in the cylinders for an overbore on the pistons.   Cylinder heads are high grade heat treated alloy.
They are retained with high spec cap screws and generous hard washers. The cylinders have been helicoiled as a matter of course. Base flanges were re-machined as a matter of course.   Valves and seat widths are cut according to modern thinking and back cutting and relief's as appropriate for best flow. Valve train modifications are restricted to exhaust lifters to late Bonneville specifications. From memory 1. .39inch centers, I think[?!]   My experience has shown me Indian did not always get it right on the crankcase cylinder decks. I made a dummy shaft for the flywheel main shafts and then using this for a datum, skimmed the cylinder decks, to ensure alignment on all plains and correct  cylinder disposition [ie 42 degrees.] The dummy shaft also proved the other modifications in the crankcases. The crankcases are set up with a flywheel scraper and oil dam similar to later Chief practice, except my scraper runs closer tolerance to the flywheel.   The oilpump has two sealed ball races supporting the magneto drive and this drive sits in an Oldham coupling which I made for the job.    The Fairbanks- Morse style  magneto [ probably a Joe Hunt or similar] started life as a 45 degree magneto and I have carefully re-profiled it to 42 degrees to get the most even flux to both cylinders. It has a new coil, points, condenser, bearings, cap and has been re-bushed. At the end of all this I had the magnet re-magnetized for maximum flux.

The generic parts, such as Morris fit it should they ever be needed. Morris were helpful  with information for re-profiling the cam. Brakes and hubs:  I have skimmed the drums  and back plates have been modified. The drums are ventilated and the front backplate has a small screened scoop and exit screen. The high friction linings are bonded and I  machined  them attached to the back plates to get perfect profile. The front actuating cam has the profile slightly modified for more mechanical advantage. The rear backing plate has had quite a lot of material removed and similarly these shoes were machined attached to the plate. They may have alloy shoes fitted at present for better heat dispersal. There are spare unused shoes [ probably originals from memory] that will go with the bike.   I bought Akront rims and I made heavy gauge spokes to suit,  from blanks. Rolled thread form used for strength. Tires are matched Michelin  street /sport type with a reasonably sticky compound and have plenty of life left in them. I have also put the racing on hold for reasons I have already mentioned. These days, I tend to get more out of solving the problems and making the bikes than I do from racing.   Paul Hanes, also a very clever engineer, has been the most consistent racer , but his is almost 100% sport scout. Paul has featured very well in the results over the last few years, winning the Pre-war class on occasion. This class is the equivalent of C class racing in USA. Brent Symes was the other racer along with Paul Hanes who went to Daytona under the Indian Team New Zealand banner. All the racers I have mentioned here were the members of ITNZ We all freely shared ideas and helped each other without reservation. [No pun intended!]  

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